The Podcast

Do Human Work

Conversations with security leaders about what people should be doing once the machines take the repetitive work. Co-hosted with Lior Div.

Twenty episodes so far. Every guest runs or has run a security function, and every conversation ends up in the same place: the job was never the alert queue.

Episode 20 · Aug 25, 2026 · 27m

Fifteen Months Away: What Stepping Back Teaches Leaders

Matt Sharp, CISO, Xactly

Episode 19 · Jul 30, 2026 · 38m

Rethinking Cybersecurity’s Foundations for the AI Era

Jatarra Warren

Episode 18 · Jun 29, 2026 · 44m

The Bet Most Security Teams Are Losing

Nicole Beckwith

Episode 17 · Jun 9, 2026 · 50m

The Fundamentals Don’t Care About Your AI Stack

Mark-David McLaughlin

Episode 16 · May 20, 2026 · 43m

Not All Agents Are Created Equal

Brian Fricke

Episode 15 · Apr 16, 2026 · 44m

The SOC Is a Ticking Clock

Anthony LaForte

Episode 14 · Dec 4, 2025 · 19m

302 Days from Stealth to the Largest Cybersecurity Series A in History

Lior Div and Yonatan Striem-Amit

Episode 13 · Nov 25, 2025 · 47m

Cyber Leadership without the Ego

Olivia Phillips

Episode 12 · Nov 20, 2025 · 34m

Fight Fire With Fire: Using AI to Outpace Attackers

Ron Eddings

Episode 11 · Nov 10, 2025 · 33m

Building Trust in AI: Governance that Empowers

Dirce Hernandez

Episode 10 · Oct 7, 2025 · 28m

People-Led, AI-Driven: When Humans Lead, Tech Follows

Wayman Cummings

Episode 9 · Sep 22, 2025 · 30m

Balancing Innovation and Risk with AI

Bill Brown

Episode 8 · Sep 15, 2025 · 24m

AI Before It Was Cool: Law Firm Innovation

Jason Thomas

Episode 7 · Sep 2, 2025 · 21m

Beyond the Status Quo: Innovation as the New Security Mandate

Kyle Kurdziolek

Episode 6 · Aug 19, 2025 · 44m

Leaning into the Opportunity: The AI Cybersecurity Revolution

Michael Baker

Episode 5 · Aug 12, 2025 · 31m

Leading Security with Time to Think

Mignona Cote

Episode 4 · Jul 14, 2025 · 31m

Rethinking Risk: How AI Reshapes Cybersecurity

Gavin Grisamore

Episode 3 · Jun 17, 2025 · 19m

From Sleep to Strategy: Cyber’s Human Future

John Koester

Episode 2 · Jun 17, 2025 · 39m

From Burnout to Breakthrough: Rethinking the SOC

Benjamin Dulieu, CIO and CISO, Duck Creek

Episode 1 · Jun 16, 2025 · 28m

Shifting Up: How AI Frees Us to Be Human

Travis Farral, VP and CISO, Archaea Energy